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For Sale Knutson Messenger Custom DLX Electric Upright Bass and Acoustic Image Coda+ 560AA Bass Amp

Discussion in 'For Sale: Double Basses' started by Paul Sakion, Jun 3, 2021.


  1. Paul Sakion

    Paul Sakion Supporting Member

    Apr 6, 2017
    Santa Fe, NM
    Price:
    2950
    Strings:
    4
    Location:
    New Mexico
    For sale, a Knutson Messenger Custom DLX Electric Upright Bass, two channel Acoustic Image Coda+ 560AA 300 watt Bass Amp, and Glasser fiberglass bow for $2,950. I’m the original owner and they're in excellent condition since I've only played at home with my wife. I've been playing my acoustic bass exclusively for the past couple years and this wonderful instrument deserves a loving home.

    For reference here are the current prices from the Knutson Messenger Bass website (Messenger Pricelist):
    1) Messenger™ Bass Custom DLX model: Fully-hollow carved spruce to, with Messenger/Barbera active blend electronics $3,950
    2) Heavy duty Cordura padded bag $150
    3) The SBK molded plastic flight case with purchase of bass (to use with padded bag) $200
    4) Freestand Tripod $150
    5) Acoustic Image Two channel bass amp $? (but the Coda+ 560AA cost me $1289 back in 2009 so maybe estimate $1000?)
    So the new cost would be $5450 + shipping.

    I'm selling my 2009 Messenger Bass, Acoustics Image Coda+ 560AA two channel 300 watt bass amplifier, and a Glasser fiberglass bow for $2950 plus the actual cost of shipping (the actual cost will be finalized before shipping). The size of the bass in its SKB flight case is 60"x15"x15" and the weight is 43 lbs (Bass, Freestand, and padded bag). UPS Ground shipping from Santa Fe, NM to to a residential address in New York insured for $3000 is estimated to be $165 and FedEx Home Delivery would cost $127 (not sure about insurance for FedEx yet). The size of the Acoustic Image 560AA amplifier in a shipping box is 17"x17"x14" and the weight is 25 lbs. UPS Ground shipping from Santa Fe, NM to to a residential address in New York insured for $500 is estimated to be $68 and FedEx Ground would cost $64 (again not sure about insurance for FedEx yet). Costs may be slightly higher or lower depending where you live and if it is a residential address (slightly higher).

    Also for reference, below is the email from John to me back in 2009 with the prices he charged then. I didn't purchase the 501C hard travel case for the amp (since I wasn't planning to travel with it).

    If you are interested in just the Messenger Bass / Bow, the price would be $2,650 + shipping. The Acoustic Image Coda+ 560AA 300 watt Bass Amp alone would be $500 + shipping.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this. Again, hoping this incredible, custom made instrument finds a good home!
    ________________________________________

    From: John Knutson <[email protected]>
    Date: Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:09 PM
    Subject: Fwd: Buying a Messenger Bass
    To: [email protected]

    Hi Paul,
    I received your payment yesterday, thanks. Here's a basic accounting
    as of now. I'll have an actual invoice for you when you pick up the
    bass.

    MESSENGER UPRIGHT ELECTRIC BASS - Custom DLX Model ........... $3,250.00
    w/ Barbera & Messenger active blend systems.

    medium brown color, 40 1/2" scale

    Padded bag ............................................... 150.00
    Freestand ................................................ 150.00
    SKB flight case ( list $250.00 ) ........................ 100.00
    Shipping ( $75.00 ) ..................................... No Charge
    Subtotal $3,650.00
    CA Tax + 328.50
    TOTAL ................................................... $3,978.50

    Deposit 4/28/09 ............................................... $2,000.00
    BALANCE ...................................................... $1,978.50

    Regarding Acoustic Image amp details, I'd definitely go with the Coda+
    and the extra channel. Even on the old 200watt models the extra
    channel sounded amazing with a microphone or whatever. Both piano and
    bass at the same time would only work in a small club or fairly low
    volume venue. Both of those instruments demand a lot of head room.
    Also, if you needed more volume later, you could pick up the Two10EX
    cabiinet and have a rig with 800 watts and three ten inch speakers,
    which would be quite impressive. The speaker pressure level of only
    one ten (with it's forward facing tweeter and 5") is the limitation on
    the 800 watts.

    560AA Coda + @ minimum selling price ...................... 1,289.00
    * if ordered before 5/31/09
    501 C hard travel case @ minimum selling price ............. 109.00
    TOTAL ........................................................ $1,398.00

    I highly recommend the travel case to protect the amp, it's relatively
    inexpensive. Let me know when you want to order the amp, and I'll
    place an order right away. I just called Rick Jones, and they are
    only backordered about three weeks presently, so take your time
    deciding what you want. Here's that newsletter icon again, which you
    can click and see the Coda+ mounted on the Two10 EX cabinet. This
    cabinet can also be placed separately anywhere on the stage you like.

    thanks,

    John Knutson
    (707)887-2709











     

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  2. zootsaxes

    zootsaxes Supporting Member

    Mar 6, 2015
    Memphis, TN
    I bought one of these earlier this year and have been having a ball with it! What type of strings do you fancy for it? I’ve been around the mill but came back to the Corelli it came to me with. -J
     
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  3. Paul Sakion

    Paul Sakion Supporting Member

    Apr 6, 2017
    Santa Fe, NM
    I’ve stuck with the Corelli’s as well. As you well know, it is a dream to play. John really knows what he is doing! Before I knew about Messenger Basses, my wife and I heard a bassist named Pierre playing jazz on one in the No Name Bar in Sausalito, CA and it sounded amazing. Pierre let me play it briefly between sets and I KNEW I had to get one. I really hope my old friend can find an owner who will appreciate it as much as I have.
     
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  4. Hans Gruber

    Hans Gruber

    Jun 18, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Looks like those might be the Thomastik Superflexible. I have the same bass and it basically paid my rent before the pandemic. Half the hashtags on Instagram are me and this guy from South America.

    The strings really have a nice compromise with arco/pizz response. Such a wonderful unique instrument that satisfies on so many levels!
     
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  5. DaveAceofBass

    DaveAceofBass Supporting Member

    Feb 20, 2004
    Charlotte, NC
    John Knutson did ship with Superflexibles, unless you paid extra for Spirocores. Oddly, the Superflexibles are even stiffer than the Spiros!
     
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  6. That's not very odd.
    The Superflexibles were released as a replacement for the Thomastik Precisions (Prazisions), which are using a solid steel core and are VERY stiff. They are still available today, for what it's worth.
    The Superflexibles were indeed more supple than the Precisions.
    The Spirocores came after the Superflexibles and are another step forward.
    Old Spicocore envelopes were also stating Superflexible to indicate their use of the braided steel core:
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