Perpetual vs Superflexible

Discussion in 'Strings [DB]' started by lurk, Jul 27, 2021 at 2:05 PM.


  1. lurk

    lurk

    Dec 2, 2009
    NYC
    I kinda like Perps, but I find the sound a little thin, for lack of a better word. It occurs to me that I might try Superflexibles. That's the strings my brand new Pollmann came with when I bought it 50 years ago. I took them off pretty soon and put on Spiros for next 35 years. Now I am looking for a different sound and easier playing as I age and recover from a bad bike accident. At this point all my work is pizz, but about 1/3 of my practice is Arco. Any thoughts?
     
  2. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    Serendipitous that you should post this. I just ordered a set of Superflex today, looking for something that bows a little better than Spiros but is good for pizz. Tension-wise between Spiro weich and mittel, I think.

    I bought and sold a crappy Chinese bass a couple of years ago with Superflexibles. They were good strings, but pretty old, and it was hard to evaluate them well given the instrument.
     
  3. nogbert

    nogbert

    Jul 18, 2010
    Denver, CO
    IME superflexibles sound like spirocores but with slightly less high end. Great string that people seem to sleep on around here!
     
  4. lurk

    lurk

    Dec 2, 2009
    NYC
    Great! I've got a guinea pig! Let me know how they work out.
     
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  5. elmer

    elmer

    Oct 1, 2004
    Finland
    This is also my experience on my bass. Like Spiros, Thomastik makes these also on 3/4 and 4/4 sets. They both have a bit more tension than Spiro 4/4 set on a 106cm mensur. I remember liking the D string which is the fattest steel D I´ve seen.
     
  6. Sam Dingle

    Sam Dingle Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    Tallahassee
    superflexibles will be higher tension than perpetuals in my experience
     
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  7. Yep, stiffer than Spiro mittels.
     
  8. Earl

    Earl Supporting Member

    I like the Superflexible solos tuned to orchestra. I am using the E & A with plain gut G & D (today anyway!).
     
  9. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Your first second choice™ Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL
    I think Superflexibles are an underrated string, but the Perpetuals are a lot more balanced and easy to play. I was also put off by the Superflexible D string which is nearly as thick as the A.

    - Steve
     
  10. Selim

    Selim Supporting Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    New York City
    I'd like to read about (and hear) a comparison of Perpetuals and Gensslers Temperas.
     
  11. elmer

    elmer

    Oct 1, 2004
    Finland
    Well, it´s off topic here, but maybe I could give my experiences in the Tempera thread.
     
  12. lurk

    lurk

    Dec 2, 2009
    NYC
    Thanks everyone. I think I'll look elsewhere. Maybe Polychrome. I like the feel of Perpetuals, but the sound is a little pretty for me. Sounds like Superflexibles would be a little stiff for my old hands.
     
  13. Selim

    Selim Supporting Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    New York City
    I've had mostly old mittels + old poly G on for a good while now and just today I switched them out to a new (GHS made) polychrome set for the same reason: I'm turning "Route 66" next month and even though sound comes first in my book and the mittels/poly sound GREAT on this bass (arco & pizz), at this point I simply need something easier to play on, period

    The jury's still out for me on the new GHS formula. I had them on for a week last year and while there were obvious improvements to the old UK formula, I didn't have them on long enough to say anything more about them. But I think polys are a good candidate if you're looking for a true hybrid string because, although they are comfortable, they still have a strong sound and at least the old formula had a nice pizz sound and an almost "lush" arco sound (and very easy to start). I'll need more time with this new version to see about them ..

    Like you, I also found the Perpetuals to be too "pretty" on the first go-around - but maybe that's because I was coming from Spiros/polychrome, both strings that have a nice punch and front end to their sound. Even so, I'm going to give them yet another try with the new stark G I just received.
     
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  14. Selim

    Selim Supporting Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    New York City
    I used SFs for years. They worked great in the college/regional orchestras I played in at the time, but I agree they might be too stiff for these hands now.
     
  15. Pirastro Jazzers could be an alternative for you guys looking for a « Perpetual with more meat » string. :)
     
  16. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY
    Every time I read a thread about superflexibles being too stiff, or stiffer than Spirocores, I have to wonder if the set I had was an anomaly. The set I had were like spirocores that were really watered down to the point where they sounded hollow and had no punch. They felt like noodles to me, but maybe because that was because I was trying to get them to punch like spirocores without the annoying whine. It never worked for me.
     
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